in fact, we have an emergency manager law used, but when it's used it's a major help to prevent bankruptcies and other challenges. that's also on the ballot. this would override that and leave us in a spot where communities might have bankruptcy as an option, and that's a very bad answer. >> governor, let me just ask you, what are the mechanics of this thing? in other words, if they get collective bargaining as a matter of state constitutional rights, does that undo all of your reforms as you call it to the michigan comeback? does that give the unions power even over the state legislature? is it that bad? >> it would in many aspects take us back in time and give a lot of power to unions in terms of the negotiating process and really wipe out a lot of benefits we have. we're the comeback state. we've gone through tough recessions before. we need to keep going. that's where i encourage our citizens to get out there look at the details of this and vote no on proposal two. >> will this bring out a bigger turnout? i've seen recent polls that show the state of michigan a toss-up between romney and